Tanks curiosi

[Blue Sky]

The French Schneider 1909

 

 

This armored truck was the first AFV built and employed by the Spanish Army. The first one was purchased in 1910, being sent two years later to the Moroccan war theater. A second one, slightly different (more prominent engine compartment in the front) arrived to Spain in 1911.

There are some documents but no photos about a third vehicle that arrived in 1921. If you have information on this vehicle, please email me.

[Blue Sky]

Venezuelan Armored Cars

 

 

A small number of armored recce vehicles were fabricated at the Puert Cabello Naval Arsenal. These were rather similar to a turtle in appearance and thus were dubbed "Tortuga" ( Turtle) The "Tortuga" was designed by an engineer called Tomás Pacanins,. The chassis was a Ford 6x4 commercial vehicle, a rotating turret, and armed according to with a Vickers Mk, 4b 7 mm machine gun (the ones shown on the photo above show a Hotchkiss Mod. 1931 13.2 mm according to Dr. Georg von Rauch). It is believed that 12 units were built but only five were displayed. In the event the vehicles were poorly designed, offered poor visibility and no ventilation. The extreme overhang on their bodies rendered them clumsy at hard to maneuver.

[Blue Sky]

Citroen-Kegresse P-28 Armored Car

 

 

Three Citroen-Kegresse P-28 armored vehicles entered service in Uruguay with the Metropolitan Guard in 1933-34, and has the honor of being the first armored vehicle in Uruguay. One has been preserved in Montevideo.

[Blue Sky]

Ford Armored Car

[Blue Sky]

The Wilton-Fijenoord

 

 

An experimental type. After satisfying trials two of these cars were shipped to the East Indies in 1934. Results there were less satisfactory, the vehicles being too heavy for the roads and the air-cooled engines suffering from overheating, forcing the use of airplane gas rather than the normal gasoline. The 2 cars thus were sold back to the firm and returned to the Netherlands.

In February 1935 two vehicles were sold to Brazil. The third remained at the firm until they managed to sell it to the Netherlands army in return of a tax-reduction. In May 1940 the Germans captured the third unit and stored it until re-activated in April 1945 for the defense of Berlin, still unarmed.

[Blue Sky]

Camion Protegido Car 1921

 

 

The Camion Protegido armored car (or truck) was a 4x2 vehicle. There were many variations on this design, some with turrets, some without. Built in 1921 by the Electrotechnical Corps belonging to the Engineers branch of the army. 31 of this vehicles were built by the Centro Electrotécnico de Ingenieros between 1921 and 1924 on the following chassis: 1 Federal, 8 Nash-Quad 40 hp, 2 Benz 40/50 hp and 20 Latil 35 hp.

[Blue Sky]

1923 Saint Chamond Wheel cum Track

 

7 units were purchased in September 16, 1923 so as to form a tank company. The Spanish soldiers quickly found out that they had been sold pure junk. They must have been purchased without any testing or someone received some "kick back" money because they were a failure from the start. After initial deployment, problems immediately arose with a total failure of one unit's drive system and it had to be returned for repair. After a few days 2 more failed just as the first. Soldiers quickly noted the lengthy time it took to switch from track to wheel. Other faults were thin armor, a weak engine, and a machine gun that could only be fired forward. The interior was prone to excessive heat and driver visablity was very poor. Further, the poor driver had to put up with hot, spent machine gun shell casings hitting his head as they were ejected! These vehicles were quickly retired. It is reported that 2 of these tanks are in a museum in Madrid but this has been disputed as there is no public display of them. Perhaps they are stored in private museums or "out of view" in a public museum.

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1923 Saint Chamond Wheel cum Track [...]

 

Siamo sicuri fosse un Tank? A me ricorda il trattore agricolo...

[Blue Sky]

PzKpfw Steyr ADGZ Armored Car

 

Developed as a heavy armored car for the Austrian army from 1934 and delivered from 1935-37. A production series was considered. When Germany occupied Austria during "Anschluss" in 1938, they obtained 27 of these units from the Austrian army (12 ADGZ road-tanks were part of the Austrian army as of March 1938, all in the Fast Division, while 14 were part of the police and gernarmerie which makes 26 - where the extra one came from described before is simply a dispute between my sources). The PzKpfw Steyr ADGZ Armored Cars were assigned to Police detachments and SS units. In 1941, the SS ordered an additional 25 ADGZ. Delivered in 1942, they entered service in Russia and the Balkans. An interesting feature of this vehicle was that there was no "rear". Either end was capable of driving the unit.

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[Blue Sky]

1921 Christie Amphibious Tank

 

 

[Blue Sky]

Armored cars in the War of Independence

 

 

 

 

"Estonia" - 1918. "Tasuja" - 1919. "Kalewipoeg" - 1919. "Toonela" - 1919. "Wahur" - 1919. "Pisuhänd" - 1919. "Vanapagan" - 1919. "Vambola" - 1920. "Tasuja" - 1920. "Suur Tõll" - 1920. 2 armored gun tractors: "Sorts" and "Puuk". All these names were the "nick names" for the vehicles.

[Blue Sky]

Kubus APC

 

Kubus saw service in the Warsaw Uprising. Kubus, translated as "Jackie", a nick name of "Jacob", is currently preserved in the Polish Army Museum in Warsaw. It was built upon a Chevrolet truck chassis, and used during the first days of the Warsaw uprising in August of 1944. It was designed to carry an assault squad and had no fixed weapons. Firing ports for installed for 2 LMGs and rifles or SMGs. It was used during the attack on Warsaw University.

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Laverda 225 REV-raccogliriso

 

 

[Blue Sky]

Laverda 225 REV-raccogliriso

 

Wow sembra uscito da un film della saga Alien!

 

The Christie M1932

 

[Blue Sky]

1923 Christie Amphibious Tank

 

[Ospite intruder]

Anche questo non scherza, pure fu in produzione, e in servizio, con lo US Marine Corps negli anni 50 e 60 (noto come "The World's biggest shot gun"):

 

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[Ospite Peppe]

Era un Flak?!

[Ospite intruder]

Un semovente anticarro, anche se in Nam fu usato spesso, e letteralmente, come shotgun...

 

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/M50_Ontos

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[Dominus]

Beh era un interessante idea per creare un mezzo anticarro con grande potenza di fuoco in uno scafo di dimensioni e pesi contenuti, per certi versi anticipò i cacciacarri moderni dotati di armamento missilistico (daltronde i missili sostituirono anche i cannoni senza rinculo).

[Blue Sky]

Chevrolet Armored Car

 

Plymouth Armored Car

[Blue Sky]

Locally Produced Armored Car

 

 

Made in Cucuta, Colombia in the "Santander" Batallion workshops in around 1929, this vehicle picture (only) was sent to the Colombian Military Museum by Mr. Santiago Quijano from Vienna (Austria). Most likely an adaptation of a comercial truck chassis with armored plate and showing no visable armament.

[Blue Sky]

Carden Loyd Tankette

[Blue Sky]

Ford "All Terrain" Armored Car

 

 

In 1934, Ford and General Motors were each invited to build an experimental armored car to undergo testing by the Permanent Force. The deal involved the government paying for the materials and chassis’ while the companies paid for the design work and assembly. In the end the government paid $2,500.00 compared to Ford and G.M. which paid $9,000.00 each to build their respective cars. The Ford differed from the Chevrolet in that it had dual wheels on the second and third axles, an eight-cylinder gasoline engine, and the armor plating was welded rather than riveted and bolted. Both armored cars had a maximum speed of 30 mph and the Ford was able to do 8 mph in reverse. Plans called for arming the vehicles with the Vickers Mk. VI medium machine gun but these were delayed as the feed mechanisms were on the wrong side, having been originally designed by the British for right hand drive vehicles. The cars underwent testing at Petawawa, Ontario with the Royal Canadian Dragoons where it was found that both performed satisfactorily. The ten wheel Ford performed the best in off-road tests and the six wheel Chevrolet excelled on roads. Orders for further cars failed to materialize due to budgetary limitations and the Ford experimental car was shipped to Winnipeg for use by the Lord Strathcona’s Horse. The Chevrolet remained with the RCD. Other than the handful of Carden-Loyd carriers obtained in the early 1930’s, these two armored cars were the only armored vehicle procurements by the Canadian Permanent Force until the acquisition of a number of British Mk. VI B Light Tanks in 1938.

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[Blue Sky]

The Christie M1937 and M1938

 

 

Further examples of adaptations of the original M1935

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Qualcuno è a conoscenza del Piaggio Rombo?

 

Sapevo che nel 40 o 41 per il neo costituito esercito spagnolo di Franco, era stata messa in produzione un carro armato per certi versi moderno.

Qualcuno è a conoscenza?