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New stealth frigate ready for the Arctic

 

Russia’s first stealth technology frigate «Admiral Gorshkov» is ready for sea trials in the Barents Sea before entering service in the Northern Fleet.

 

Disinformation: Frigate Admiral Gorshkov Won't Start Trials in November

 

Project 22350 frigate Admiral Gorshkov will not take the Barents Sea for trials late in November. The source in Russian Navy Main HQ that Izvestiya newspaper recently referred to had provided untrustworthy information. Moreover, exterior deck erection does not consist of composite materials, it is only covered with radar absorbent coating, an official of United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) told Central Navy Portal.

[Andrea75]

Ritardi

 

Russia to commission First Borey Class Nuclear Sub in 2013

 

Russia’s first Borey class strategic nuclear submarine will be commissioned in 2013, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said on Monday.

The Yury Dolgoruky submarine was expected to join the Russian Navy by the end of this year, but tests carried out during the latest sea trials revealed a number of technical flaws. Software glitches in the automated launch control system prevented further tests of the Bulava ballistic missile, the submarine’s main weapon.

 

 

Russia's new submarine Yury Dolgoruky delayed yet again

 

It was previously planned that the submarine would be passed into service in September-October 2012. Until then, another date was announced - July 29, 2012. The dates would be often postponed because of the need for additional testing of Yury Dolgoruky's onboard systems.

It is expected that with the first submarine of Borei project, Russia will pass into service its new sea-based intercontinental ballistic missile Bulava, reports Neva24.

Anatoly Serdyukov said during his trip to the Kamchatka region that the second submarine of Project 955 Borei - Alexander Nevsky - would become a part of the Russian Pacific Fleet in 2014. The delay will thus make up more than a year.

[Andrea75]

Russia Tests Hydrogen-Fueled Submarine

 

Russian Navy is about to test submarine B-90 Sarov with first Russian-made hydrogen-fueled powerplant by the end of 2012, writes Izvestiya referring to a source in defense ministry. In prospect, such powerplants can be mounted on Project 677 Lada and Amur-1500 submarines. Similar plants are used in German submarines U-212 and U-214.

 

Russia's Not So Super Secret Special Submarine

 

 

inoltre un scheda su Air Independent Propulsion (AIP)

[viata 85]

Dalle dichiarazioni del direttore di Kamov sulle unità classe Mistral in costruzione per la marina russa verranno imbarcati elicotteri Ka-52K,versione navalizzata del Ka-52 con radar e trattamenti anti-corrosione.

 

http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsrussian-navy-to-receive-first-ka-52k-helicopter-in-2013

[Andrea75]

Russia On Target To Float Out Five Warships Each Year

 

Russian shipyards will float out five combat and auxiliary ships for the Russian Navy each year in line with the existing shipbuilding program, Navy chief Adm. Viktor Chirkov said on Wednesday.

 

“I think that we will be able to float out up to five warships and auxiliary ships every year,” Chirkov told reporters in St. Petersburg at the launch of the Igor Belousov sea-rescue ship, which is expected to be commissioned in 2014.

 

The construction of the Igor Belousov started in 2005 at the Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg but has faced a series of setbacks.

 

The ship is designed to perform a variety of missions, including the search, rescue and salvage of submarines in distress. It is equipped with advanced deep-sea search-and-rescue equipment, including a deep-sea diving system produced by the Scottish firm DIVEX.

[Andrea75]

New ship will make Russia superpower on sea, experts say

 

Russia intends to strengthen its security on sea with a heavy air-capable cruiser of a new generation. The cruiser is expected to be put to use in the Russian navy in 2020.

The new aircraft carrier will combine the properties of a command and control vessel and that of a powerful defensive ship. It is also planned to fit up this cruiser with the most advanced equipment that has no analogues in the world.

The main purpose of such a ship is to deliver strikes at targets in the air, on water, on land and even in space. The latter task will be achieved if the ship works in a tandem with a group of orbital facilities.

At present, Russia has only one heavy air-capable cruiser, called “Admiral Kuznetsov”, which is drawing its duty in Russia’s northern waters. There are plans to modernize it by 2020, but Russian navy commanders have long been saying that Russia needs more heavy cruisers as well.

In an interview with the Voice of Russia, analyst Ivan Konovalov said:

“There have been certain misunderstandings between the Russian United Shipbuilding Corporation and the Defense Ministry concerning this issue. But when the country’s top leaders announced that Russia needs new aircraft carriers, there are no more misunderstandings. The Russian navy has 4 subdivisions - thus, it is planned that Russia will have 4 battle groups headed by aircraft carriers.”

These groups will consist of the aircraft carrier itself, at least 6 more other battle ships and 1 or 2 submarines.

On November 23, the Russian Navy’s Commander-in-Chief Admiral Victor Chirkov said that works on the project of the new aircraft carrier should be finished by 2020. Money on this project has already been allocated.

The conditions which the commanders have put forward for the new ship is that it should spend a very long time without being reloaded with any energy from outside (it is planned that this will be reached by equipping the ship with nuclear reactors), be workable at any weather and have a high combat viability.

The editor-in-chief of the Russian magazine “Export Vooruzheniy” (“Export of arms”) Andrey Florov says:

“For Russia, having such a cruiser would mean more than just having another military ship. If Russia has it, it will be able to claim for the status of a superpower from the point of view of navy – although, of course, the cruiser will be not only a symbol of power, but be used for practical aims as well. It will defend Russian submarines and land-based marines from air attacks.”

The displacement of the new aircraft carrier will be more than 50,000 tons, which is bigger than that of “Admiral Kuznetsov” but smaller than that of its modern US analogues. It will be able to take about 80 airplanes on its deck.

 

Will Russia ever have its own aircraft-carrier?

[cloyce]

Capisco l'ambizione russa di possedere le portaerei, ma ora che Ucraina è indipendente dalla russia, in quale cantiere pensano di costruire queste benedette portaerei?

[Franky]

Capisco l'ambizione russa di possedere le portaerei, ma ora che Ucraina è indipendente dalla russia, in quale cantiere pensano di costruire queste benedette portaerei?

 

 

E' un caso che all'ultimo Euronaval, la DCNS esponeva un mock-up di portaerei da esportazione? I Francesi guardano con molta attenzione (più di quanto non faccia l'Italia) ai BRIC e la Russia ha già ordinato le Mistarl, potrebbe perciò aggiungere all'ordinativo anche qualche bella portaerei finanziata dal petrolio e dal gas pagato profumatamente dagli Europei, Italia in primis. Sappiamo anche delle capacità francesi in campo della propulsione nucleare, e quindi avrebbe tutti i requisiti per costruirle. Io scommetto che sarà questa la soluzione, nel breve periodo, che la Marina Russa adotterà per colmare un gap industriale/tenologico; va da sè che nel lungo periodo la cantieristica russa dovrà riappropriarsi della sua indipendenza progettuale e ingegneristica, quindi penso che ci saranno ingenti investimenti in tal senso.

[meason]

il problema è che un'eventuale portaerei francese avrebbe catapulte americane...

[Andrea75]

Submerged Severodvinsk Sub Test Fires Cruise Missile

 

Russia’s newest attack submarine, the Yasen class Severodvinsk, successfully fired a cruise missile while submerged, a source in the United Shipbuilding Corporation told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

The test launch was the second during the current manufacturer’s sea trials in the White Sea. On Monday, the sub fired a cruise missile from a surfaced position.

“The multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine Severodvinsk fired a supersonic cruise missile at a land target while submerged during sea trials in the White Sea. The target was successfully destroyed,” the source said.

The Severodvinsk, laid down in 1993, is one of eight Yasen class boats ordered by the Russian Navy. The second sub of the series, the Kazan, is being built under the updated Project 885M Yasen-M.

The Severodvinsk has a submerged displacement of 13,800 tons, length of 119 meters, speed of 31 knots, and can dive to 600 meters. It has a crew of 90 including 32 officers.

Its main armament consists of 3M55 Oniks (SS-N-26) and 3M54 (SS-N-27) Kalibr cruise missiles, self-guided torpedoes and mines.

[Andrea75]

Russia Drops Plans to Build Two Mistral Class Ships – Paper

 

The Russian Defense Ministry has decided to abandon plans for construction of two Mistral class amphibious assault ships under the French license in Russia, business daily Vedomosti said on Friday citing a government source.

Russia and France signed a $1.2-billion contract for two French-built Mistral class ships, including the transfer of sensitive technology, in June 2011.

The first ship, the Vladivostok, is being built at a DCNS shipyard in Saint-Nazaire and should be delivered in 2014, while the second, the Sevastopol, is scheduled for delivery in 2015.

Two more ships were expected to be 80% built in Russia, 20% in France.

However, Russian shipbuilders and many navy experts have always been skeptical about the military necessity to deploy four ships of this class with the Russian Navy, the paper said.

In addition, the domestic construction of the two ships would cost Russia approximately the same amount of money as the French contract, while their future upkeep would lay a heavy burden on the defense budget, according to defense industry sources.

The decision has been made following the recent reshuffle in the Russian top military brass which saw the dismissal of Anatoly Serdyukov from the post of defense minister and his replacement by former emergencies minister Sergei Shoigu, who immediately took the course on streamlining defense expenditures.

A Mistral-class ship is capable of carrying 16 helicopters, four landing vessels, 70 armored vehicles, and 450 personnel.

The French-built ships are expected to be assigned to Russia’s Pacific Fleet.

The Russian Defense Ministry has not yet commented on the Vedomosti report.

[TT-1 Pinto]

Il primo sottomarino lanciamissili classe "Borei" entra in servizio ....

 

First Borei Submarine Enters Service ....

 

The First Borei class (project 955) nuclear-powered submarine, Yuri Dolgorukiy, entered service with the Russian Navy today. The official introduction ceremony was held at Sevmash's Severodvinsk facility ....

 

Fonte .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog:27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post:046a915b-9e56-48c5-a9c9-901007172180

 

Anche qui .... http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/01/yuri_dolgorukiy_submarine_offi.shtml

 

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Bel bestione.

[TT-1 Pinto]

Bel bestione.

 

Sempre meno di questo ....

 

[cama81]

mod off topic on

eh in FMP (un anime ,pura fiction) avevano pensato al successore del typhoon , il ''toy box '' grande il doppio e capace di svolgere le funzioni di portarei .

 

off topic off

[TT-1 Pinto]

I sottomarini classe "Borei" sarebbero dotati anche di missili da crociera ....

 

Project 955 submarines to carry long-range cruise missiles ....

 

During the flag raising ceremony at the Yuri Dologorukiy submarine, the first in the Project 955 class, Commander of the Russian Navy reported that the Navy "paid special attention to the torpedo armament [of the new submarine] and its capability to carry long-range cruise missiles." That is, of course, in addition to the 16 Bulava ballistic missiles that will be deployed on Project 955 submarines.

 

Fonte .... http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/01/project_955_submarines_to_carr.shtml

[TT-1 Pinto]

Ancora sulle "Mistral" russe ....

 

 

Was the Mistral a Bad Deal for Russia?

Two amphibious assault ships bought for the Russian Navy from France in a 1.2 billion euro deal will not be able to operate in temperatures below seven degrees centigrade, Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin admitted on Saturday, in critical comments about the contract.

 

Fonte .... http://www.informationdissemination.net/2013/01/was-mistral-bad-deal-for-russia.html

[Super87]

Ma marina russa ha deciso di creare un piccolo gruppo navale stabile nel mar Mediterraneo. L'interesse dei russi nel mediterraneo riguarda in special modo il mediterraneo orientale, per via della guerra civile in Siria e per la presenza di Cipro, entrambi paesi diplomaticamente vicini alla Russia.

 

http://www.geopoliticalcenter.com/2013/03/la-marina-russa-manterra-una-task-force-nel-mediterraneo/

 

La creazione di una task force mediterranea può essere anche un "mascherato" aumento della flotta del mar Nero, importante per il controllo dell'area caucasica.

Modificato 22 Marzo 2013 da Super87

[TT-1 Pinto]

Informazioni recenti sugli spostamenti di navi russe in direzione del Mediterraneo ....

 

A group of warships, including the destroyer Admiral Panteleyev, the Peresvet and the Admiral Nevelsky amphibious warfare ships, the Pechenga tanker and the salvage/rescue tug Fotiy Krylov left the South China Sea and is headed for the Suez Canal ....

The group is due to enter the Suez Canal in mid-May ....

 

 

Fonte .... http://en.rian.ru/military_news/20130412/180612838.html

 

Inoltre .... http://en.rian.ru/world/20130406/180479582.html

 

 

[Super87]

Riguardo alla classe Borei si parla della capacità di lanciare il missile Starfish (SS-N-15). Si tratta di un missile da crociera antinave lanciabile dai tubi per i siluri?

 

Per quanto riguarda la sostituta della Admiral Kuznekov dubito seriamente che decidano di appaltare il lavoro all'estero. L'acquisto delle Mistral dalla Francia era necessario per acquisire capacità e tecnologia su un tipo di nave (le portaelicotteri tuttoponte da assalto anfibio) in cui la cantieristica navale russa non ha esperienza.

 

La Russia è sempre stata esportatrice di armamenti, compresi i mezzi navali, se oggi hanno deciso di acquistare un paio di Mistral evidentemente è perché era la miglior soluzione al momento.

[madmike]

Lo Starfish (denominazione originale RPK-2) è un arma antisommergibile lanciata dai normali TLS da 533mm.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPK-2_Viyuga

[TT-1 Pinto]

Riguardo alla classe Borei si parla della capacità di lanciare il missile Starfish (SS-N-15). Si tratta di un missile da crociera antinave lanciabile dai tubi per i siluri?

 

In questo articolo .... http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/01/project_955_submarines_to_carr.shtml .... che avevo già postato tempo addietro si parla di altri tipi di missili da crociera .... quanto allo SS-N-15 (RPK-2 Viyuga) .... http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-447.html .... si tratta di un ordigno anti-som sullo stile del vecchio Subroc statunitense .... non di un missile da crociera ....

[TT-1 Pinto]

Due "Tifoni" verranno radiati ....

 

Two Project 941 submarines to be eliminated ....

 

Russia appears to have made a final decision to eliminate two Project 941 Typhoon submarines - TK-17 Arkhangelsk and TK-20 Severstal.

 

Fonte .... http://russianforces.org/blog/2013/05/two_project_941_submarines_to.shtml

 

 

 

[Super87]

Se i russi avessero veramente radiato tutto quello che, dalla fine della Guerra Fredda, "hanno anunciato di radiare", penso che oggi sarebbero senza forze armate, visti i tempi di entrata in servizio di nuove unità.

 

Probabilmente li metteranno in riserva in attesa di essere aggiornati e convertiti in SSGN. Si tratta di battelli piuttosto giovani dato che sono stati varati nell' 87 e nell'89 e, nonostante tutto, rimangono tra le unità più moderne a disposizione della marina militare russa (sono contemporanei dei classe Ohio). Discorso diverso per i Delta III che sono stati costruiti negli anni 70.

[fabio-22raptor]

NITKA: The Russian way to train naval aviators (on a ground test simulator)

 

Fonte: http://theaviationist.com/2013/07/22/nitka-russia/#.Ue4nOY17LL0

 

 

 

According to RIA Novosti the Russian Navy is to stop using the NITKA complex in Crimea. The new facility will be open in Yeysk, in the region of Sea of Azov. Mastering arrested landing on arrested landing on aircraft carriers is one of the most important achievements in the career of naval aviators. So far, Russian Navy pilots trained to put a plane on a deck of a ship inNovofedorivka airbase, which is located in the Crimean region, near Sake city.

Nonetheless, after the 1989 political transformation, the base has found itself not to be in the Russian territory.

During the war in Ossetia, back in 2008, the base stopped to be a training centre for the Russian Navy, but it came back to life in 2010. However, the Russian Navy realized that it will not be a good solution to hire a training complex which is located outside the borders of the country: the contract was signed again later, and during the period of August – September 2010, three Sukhoi Su-25UTG Frogfoot-B and Su-27UB Flanker-C were based back in Saki for the proficiency training.

Soviet Navy Aviation stationed in Crimea for a long time. The Yak-38 Forgerswere based there since 1970.

In the late ’80s training of the last generation of Soviet fighter pilots took place on MiG-29K Fulcrum-D and Su-27K, later designated as Su-33 Flanker-D aircraft.

The NITKA complex was a foundation for the training. NITKA stood for Ground Aviation Training and Research Complex (Nazemniy Ispitatelno-Tryenirovochniy Kompleks Aviatsii).

The infrastructure is modeled after the deck of Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, including a mock-up deck and take-off ramp.

Still, after 1989 taking training outside the borders of the country has become uncomfortable, hence the decision to build own, independent NITKA complex at Yeysk, near the Sea of Azov.

In this way the Russian Navy resigned from using the Ukrainian base.

The adaptation of Yeysk to the role is to be quite costly – according to Jane’s the bill is to be about RUR24 billion (735M USD).

Despite the cost the first stage of the works is to be finished in September this year. The training already started on July 16.

A training platform for helicopter pilots is currently under construction as well. The main element of the system is a floating deck, that will be used to train the pilots in mastering the landing when sea is rough or the vessel is moving. In comparison to the Ukrainian installations, this element is new, so it will be ready in 2016.

As the Russian Navy will no longer use the NITKA in the Crimean Penninsula the Kiev authorities have already started to look for new clients, India and China being on top of the list.

Here’s an informative YouTube video showing the facilities at the Crimean NITKA complex, nonetheless it is slightly inacurrate as the Russians don’t use steam catapults on their aircraft carrier.