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L' inverno del loro scontento ....

 

Norway Worried About Continuing NH90 Delays ....

 

By Anthony Osborne

 

Source: Aerospace Daily & Defense Report (AW&ST)

 

 

LONDON — December 05, 2012

 

The Norwegian Ministry of Defense says NHIndustries is unlikely to meet contractual demands to deliver urgently needed NH90 naval helicopters to the country’s coast guard.

 

Under the contract, NHIndustries — the joint venture of AgustaWestland, Eurocopter and Fokker — should deliver four NH90 helicopters to the Norwegian coast guard by the end of 2012. A second aircraft was handed over to the Norwegian Ministry of Defense’s Logistic Organization on Nov. 28, but according to State Secretary Eirik Øwre Thorshaug, a number of concerns about the program remain. “There have been many quality issues to be solved, also with the second helicopter,” Thorshaug said in a statement to Aviation Week.

 

Norway wants the NH90s to replace the country’s aging fleet of Westland Lynx helicopters that operate from coast guard ships. The new NH90s will also operate from the Nansen-class frigates.

 

Norway made its concerns felt back in July when former State Secretary for Defense Roger Ingebrigtsen highlighted concerns about the long-serving Lynx helicopters, of which only three were capable of flying.

 

“The NH90 is greatly delayed, and I am very concerned about this situation,” he said at the time. “We are therefore obliged to consider what options there are to ensure that the coast guard helicopter has the capacity that we depend on. We will shortly have to decide how we solve the challenges of lack of supply of NH90.”

 

The Lynx fleet has now used up much of its remaining airframe life and should have been replaced by the NH90 between 2005 and 2008. But a four-year delay has forced the Norwegians to examine alternatives. Thorshaug confirmed that the ministry is assessing whether or not to do a service life time extension for two or four of the Lynx helicopters.

 

Meanwhile, to preserve the remaining Lynx flying hours, the coast guard has decided to use civilian helicopters to start the initial training of personnel for helicopter operations from the frigates.

 

Norway still wants the NH90, and the defense ministry reportedly has been told by NHIndustries that it is doing what it can to increase delivery speed. However, the company has so far not responded to requests for comment.

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"Flight International" torna sull'argomento Norvegia ma, sorprendentemente, fornisce informazioni poco accurate ....

 

Norway ramps up pressure over NH90 delays ....

 

By: Dominic Perry (London - December 12)

Source: Flight International

 

Norway has again warned NH Industries that the airframer must resolve Oslo's concerns over the performance and capability of its NH90 naval helicopters or face the cancellation of its order.

 

Erik Øwre Thorshaug, Norwegian deputy defence minister, insists the nation will continue to "hold [NH Industries] to account" as delays to the programme have left it without helicopters deployed on Royal Norwegian Navy frigates following the retirement of its ageing Westland Lynx fleet.

 

Norway has a commitment for a total of 14 NH90s dating from 2001. Deliveries should have been completed in 2008, but Oslo has so far received a solitary aircraft, with a second due to be handed over imminently.

 

"We are focused on the product that's delivered," says Thorshaug. "They should have the capabilities that are in the contract and we will continue to be a customer that holds the [manufacturer] responsible to deliver what is agreed.

 

"We are focused that the NH90s we take delivery of should meet the operational standards we want."

 

Although its contract with NH Industries includes the possibility of financial penalties for the airframer should it fail to meet its targets, Thorshaug warns these should be the least of NH Industries' concerns. "If they fail to deliver, what is at stake is not fines or penalties but the whole contract. They need to deliver, and that has been communicated to NH Industries. We are talking about months in that respect."

 

Norway has already indicated a willingness to investigate alternatives to the NH90, with the Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk the most likely candidate.

 

NH Industries was unavailable to comment at the time of publication.

In effetti .... il secondo esemplare è già stato ufficialmente consegnato il 28 Novembre scorso .... come Andrea75 non aveva mancato di segnalare parecchi giorni fa ....

 

http://www.nhindustries.com/publications/en/ref/NORWAY-TAKES-DELIVERY-OF-A-NEW-NH90-NFH_394.html

 

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La Germania taglia il numero degli NH90 .... e non solo di quelli ....

 

 

German helicopters get the chop ....

Original plans had called for the Bundeswehr to acquire 122 NH90 transports for the air force and army, but this expectation has now been slashed to just 82 of the NH Industries (NHI) type.

 

Fonte .... http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2013/03/german-helicopters-get-the-cho.html

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Vola il primo NH90 navale belga ....

 

Belgian maritime NH90 makes first flight ....

 

NH Industries' (NHI) first naval-variant NH90 to have been produced for Belgium made a 45min flight debut from Eurocopter's Donauwörth production site in Germany on 5 April, launching a test programme for the nation's Westland Sea King replacement.

 

 

 

Fonte .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-belgian-maritime-nh90-makes-first-flight-384388/

 

Nel Gennaio scorso era stato invece accettato il primo NH90 'terrestre' .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/picture-belgium-accepts-first-nh90-transport-helicopter-380647/

 

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Da "Air & Cosmos" ....

 

A bord de la FREMM avec le Caïman Marine .... http://www.air-cosmos.com/defense/a-bord-de-la-fremm-avec-le-caiman-marine.html

 

 

 

 

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La Francia mantiene la parola ....

 

France Signs For Remaining NH90s ....

 

The French government has confirmed it has signed up to purchase the remaining 34 NHIndustries NH90 utility helicopters from a contract signed in 2007.

 

Fonte .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/asd_06_03_2013_p03-02-584006.xml

[Scagnetti]

E anche il Belgio, come la Norvegia, è preoccupato e frustrato per i ritardi nelle consegne, in questo caso per le operazioni SAR marittime: Belgian SAR chief frustrated by NH90 delays

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E anche il Belgio, come la Norvegia, è preoccupato e frustrato per i ritardi nelle consegne, in questo caso per le operazioni SAR marittime: Belgian SAR chief frustrated by NH90 delays

 

Speriamo che ora tale preoccupazione diminuisca ....

 

Belgium takes delivery of first naval-variant NH90 ....

 

Belgium has taken delivery of its first NH Industries NH90 in the NFH naval variant, which is due to enter operational service next year.

Identical in configuration to the NFH-version aircraft already being flown by the Netherlands, the Belgian helicopter has been delivered in the full operating capability standard.

 

Fonte .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/belgium-takes-delivery-of-first-naval-variant-nh90-389184/

 

Inoltre ....

 

http://www.eads.com/eads/int/en/news/press.20130801_ec_belgium_nh90.html

 

http://www.shephardmedia.com/news/rotorhub/first-nh90-nfh-helicopter-belgium-navy-delivered/

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I piloti degli NH90 NFH belgi verranno ad addestrarsi sul simulatore anche in Italia ....

 

Belgians Begin NH90 NFH Training ....

 

It will become operational in 2014.

Belgian NH90 NFH pilots will receive training in simulators in Germany and Italy.

 

Fonte .... http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog:27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post:a41bcad3-82aa-4c03-974d-dcab614e317c

[ziper_it]

Ciao a tutti,

cercavo delle informazioni circa la configurazione di EI200 vs EI202 e EI213, gli univi di cui sono riuscito a trovare un walkaround.

 

Qualcuno sa aiutarmi o indicarmi dove reperire delle foto dell'interno dell'EI200?

 

Grazie anticipatamente

 

Ciao,

Francesco

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.... "Lightning takes down air force craft at big cost" .... http://www.newsbcc.com/newzealand/business/lightning_takes_down_air_force_craft_at_big_cost/393919/

 

However, one industry source put the cost of repairs at more than $10 million.

 

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Ma .... quante sono le versioni dello NH90 ?

 

.... a speaker from NH Industries (NHI) added some great context drawn from the NH90 programme.

So, how many NH90 variants are there out there?

Of course, we all know that the answer is two: the TTH (tactical transport helicopter) and the NFH (clunkily-named NATO frigate helicopter).

Wrong ....

 

Fonte .... http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2013/10/nh90-variants-a-surprise-total/

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NH Industries annuncia la consegna alla Marina Militare del primo NH90 nella configurazione "Step B" ....

 

NHI is proud to announce that the first NH90 NFH Step B, has been delivered today to the Italian Navy.

This fully operational naval helicopter will be assigned to the 5th Helicopter Squadron of the Italian Navy at the Sarzana-Luni base.

The Italian Navy has ordered 56 NH90s, 46 of which in the NFH variant.

 

Fonte .... http://www.nhindustries.com/site/en/ref/News_58.html

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Ulteriori dettagli sulla consegna alla Marina Militare del primo NH90 "Step B" ....

 

Après la France, l'Italie : NHIndustries annonce ce matin que la marine de Rome a pris réception le 8 novembre de son premier NH90-NFH au standard "Step B", c'est à théoriquement capable de remplir toutes ses missions de combat naval.

Cette évolution du NH90 permettra notamment de mettre en oeuvre le missile antinavire Marte MK/2S.

 

Fonte .... http://www.air-cosmos.com/defense/nhi-livre-un-premier-nh90-step-b-a-la-marine-italienne.html

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Segnalazione ....

 

Sull'ultimo numero del mensile britannico "Air Forces Monthly" in uscita oggi .... un supplemento di 28 pagine dedicato allo NH90 ....

 

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NH90 e Comsubin ....

 

"Gli incursori si lanciano in caduta libera dall'elicottero SH-90" .... http://www.marina.difesa.it/conosciamoci/notizie/Pagine/20140116_sh90.aspx

 

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Ci si sta avviando verso la consegna del 200° esemplare ....

 

NH90 closes in on 200th delivery milestone ....

 

NH Industries (NHI) is ramping up production of its NH90 transport helicopter and is closing in on the 200th delivery of the type as it looks to put the delays and contract disputes that have dogged the programme behind it.

 

Fonte ....http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/nh90-closes-in-on-200th-delivery-milestone-395357/

 

Nel frattempo .... Eurocopter Group, titolare di una partecipazione di maggioranza (62.5%) nel consorzio NHI, ha completato la sua trasformazione in Airbus Helicopters ....

 

"New identity, new fortunes for company formerly known as Eurocopter" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/new-identity-new-fortunes-for-company-formerly-known-as-395319/

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La prima volta del "Caimano" ....

 

"Premier tir d'une torpille MU-90 par un Caïman Marine" .... vhttp://www.air-cosmos.com/defense/premier-tir-d-une-torpille-mu-90-par-un-caiman-marine.html

 

Anche qui .... http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/actu-marine/experimentation-de-tirs-de-torpille-d-entrainement-mu90-par-un-caiman-marine

 

 

 

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Lo scontento della Norvegia sembra non avere fine a febbraio 2014, come dichiarato dal capo di stato maggiore norvegese: un elicottero che sembra non sarà mai pronto

 

Inoltre, come segnalato su altro forum, ieri la ministra della difesa olandese a riferito al parlamento di diverse nuove criticità palesatesi in mare durante le operazioni antipirateria al largo della Somalia, riuguardanti corrosione, oltre a vecchi noti problemi. Tra le altre fonti segnalo: http://www.nieuws.nl/algemeen/20140311/Militaire-helikopter-NH90-roest-te-snel in olandese.

 

"L'usura prematura è causata da errori di progettazione , errori di montaggio e istruzioni di manutenzione incomplete."

 

Come se non bastasse oltre ai malumori norvegesi e olandesi anche il CSM tedesco Volker Wieker ha parlato di "seri problemi" in audizione ufficiale: http://www.n-tv.de/politik/Der-NH90-rostet-article12451481.html

 

Non ho abbastanza padronanza della lingua per capire se si riferisse a quanto emerso in Olanda o ad altro. Di certo sul sito tedesco si rifersice dell'esperienza dei militari tedeschi in A-stan con il mezzo assolutamente non esaltante, con accenni allla totale inaffidabilità del sistema di navigazione.

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Come al solito (!!!!), si possono leggere delle "mezze verita" da audit e reports provenienti da paesi del nord europa.

 

Io mio domando e chiedo per quale motivo all'interno dell' EI, della AMI e della MM non si compilano questi documenti.

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Corrosione .... ci mancava solo quella ....

 

"Dutch maritime NH90s suffer corrosion" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dutch-maritime-nh90s-suffer-corrosion-397191/

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Li acquista anche il Qatar ....

 

Qatar has signed a letter of intent covering the possible acquisition of 22 NH Industries NH90 helicopters in a deal worth around €2 billion ($2.8 billion).

Revealed at the recent Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition and Conference, the tentative deal covers the purchase of 12 of the TTH troop transport variant and 10 of the navalised NFH model.

 

Fonte .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/qatar-plans-2bn-nh90-acquisition-397582/

[pragnetto]

Visto il primo settembre sopra Vittorio Veneto volare molto basso.

E' un NFH in collaudo? Viene dalle Officine Aeronavali?

[Focke wulf]

Ho letto che è stato consegnato la 27^ macchina all'Aves. Sono in dotazione ai Rgt Aldebaran e Vega per ora; si sa quali altri reparti saranno destinati a riceverlo?

In quanto alla Marina somper certo che i primi 2 esemplari arriveranno pure a Grottaglie entro l'anno, credo la Marina abbia incarico ad oggi 6/8 SH 90

Modificato 9 Maggio 2015 da Focke wulf

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In quanto alla Marina somper certo che i primi 2 esemplari arriveranno pure a Grottaglie entro l'anno, credo la Marina abbia in carico ad oggi 6/8 SH 90

 

Se guardi attentamente l'immagine postata da 'pragnetto' il 2 Settembre scorso ..... ti potrai render conto che l'elicottero reca il codice 3-14 ..... ragion per cui sarei del parere che i '90' attualmente in carico alla Marina ammontino a ben più di 6/8 esemplari .....