F-35 Lightning II - Discussione Ufficiale

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magari è solo tattica in vista della futura  redistribuzione dei carichi di lavoro tra i soci del programma , da qui la necessità di "rivedere il progetto" che poi è ancora in culla e che ben potrebbe essere aggiornato senza grandi problemi

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Comunque quello del taglio agli F-35B britannici è uno scenario ancora tutt'altro che definito.

Trattandosi di programmi a medio/lungo termine, comunque tenderei a non dare eccessivo peso al covid in queste scelte come fa insideover.

https://www.portaledifesa.it/index~phppag,3_id,3788.html

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Paranoia costruita o invidia malcelata dei russi , che li vorrebbero così   ? 

https://it.sputniknews.com/difesa/202009119517282-false-flag-in-preparazione-apparsi-su-internet-rendering-di-f-35-con-livree-dellaeronautica-russa/

Del resto anche Aviationist : 

https://theaviationist.com/2020/09/10/these-are-some-of-the-designs-submitted-for-the-new-aggressors-f-35-color-scheme/

Del resto gli F-35 aggressor erano già stati immaginati nel colore " nero di Cina "  

 

Emerge anche che il Su-57 costa poco, secondo loro     .

Lo troveremo al supermercato ? 

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The Aviationist, una settimana dopo, ha pubblicato questo ...

... https://theaviationist.com/2020/09/17/exclusive-57th-wing-confirms-plan-to-use-threat-representative-color-scheme-on-the-aggressor-f-35s/ ...

Quanto al Su-57 reperibile al supermercato ... la vedo dura riuscire a farlo entrare in un carrello ... a meno che non si tratti di un plastic model kit ... 

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E' di qualche mese fa , ma è un utile riassunto, con allegato un documento americano : 

 https://www.aresdifesa.it/2020/05/15/facciamo-il-punto-sullf-35-numeri-software-odin-nucleare/

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Dalla pagina dei contratti del DoD del 24 Settembre ... sezione NAVY ...

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Lockheed Martin Corp., Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is awarded a $245,449,719 modification (P00006) to definitize previously awarded cost-plus-incentive-fee undefinitized contract N00019-20-C-0037.  
This modification extends services and adds hours in support of engineering, maintenance, logistics manpower and material support to continue to develop, sustain and produce software builds as well as carryout developmental flight tests for the Joint Strike Fighter aircraft in support of the Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and non-Department of Defense (DoD) participants.  
Additionally, this modification provides unique sea trials on aircraft carriers for non-DoD participants.  
Work will be performed at Edwards Air Force Base, California (40%); Patuxent River, Maryland (39%); and Fort Worth, Texas (21%), and is expected to be completed in March 2022.  
Fiscal 2020 research, development, test and evaluation (Navy) funds in the amount of $2,673,158; fiscal 2020 research, development, test and evaluation (Air Force) funds in the amount of $2,673,157; fiscal 2020 operations and maintenance (Air Force) funds in the amount of $373,471; fiscal 2020 operations and maintenance (Navy) funds in the amount of $373,470; and non-DoD participant funds in the amount of $7,472,589 will be obligated at time of award, $746,941 of which will expire at the end of the current fiscal year.  
The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland, is the contracting activity.

Anche qui ... janes.com ... Lockheed Martin to perform ‘unique sea trials' of F-35 for non-US customers ...

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Collisione con un esemplare dei Marines ed un hercules da rifornimento 

Caccia perso,hercules atterraggio d emergenza.

Nessun morto

 

https://news.usni.org/2020/09/29/marine-f-35b-crashes-after-collision-with-kc-130-over-california-all-aircrew-recovered-safely

Modificato 30 Settembre 2020 da maxiss

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Danni pesanti al KC-130 che sotto le ali ha subito una bella “potata”: manca sicuramente il pod di rifornimento sinistro (al suo posto una cascata di cherosene) e sembra anche il serbatoio ausiliario destro, oltre al fatto che solo il motore interno sinistro ha tutte le pale dell'elica attaccate al mozzo. Da capire cosa s'è staccato al momento dell’impatto e cosa all’atterraggio di emergenza che sembra avvenuto sulla pancia a carrello retratto.

https://theaviationist.com/2020/09/30/marine-corps-f-35b-crashes-kc-130j-crash-lands-after-mid-air-collision-all-aircrew-safe/

Vedremo cosa dirà l’inchiesta.  Ciò che è sicuro è che all’aumentare del numero di F-35 prodotti (ormai ben oltre 500) aumenterà anche la probabilità che qualcuno venga coinvolto in incidenti.

Qui si vede l'F-35B, ormai abbandonato dal pilota, cadere nel deserto...

 

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Ulteriori informazioni circa la collisione ...

... usni.org ... Marines Release More Details on F-35B, KC-130J Collision ...

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Ancora a proposito della collisione ... un pilota veterano parla dei rischi del rifornimento in volo ...

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“I’m not sure I’d characterize Air-to-Air refueling (AAR) itself as risky. 
Rather, I always thought of it as requiring strict attention to the slight but significant changes taking place as you approach, engage, and then maintain position on the drogue.”
That’s what former USMC F-4 Phantom II pilot, combat veteran, author and Stanford graduate John Trotti told TheAviationist.com about midair refueling using the drogue and probe system employed by U.S. Marine Aircraft. 
Trotti’s remarks, both as a former USMC fighter pilot and perhaps more significantly even, as a subject matter expert and published author, are relevant to the discussion of this week’s loss of a USMC F-35B over the Coachella Valley in California.

... theaviationist.com ... Following F-35B, KC-130J Collision Former USMC F-4 Pilot Tells Us About the Risks of Midair Refueling ...

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Il 20/5/2020 in 08:53 , fabio-22raptor ha scritto:

https://theaviationist.com/2020/05/20/usaf-f-35a-lightning-ii-from-58th-fighter-squadron-crashes-at-eglin-afb-florida/
 

Perso un F-35 alla Eglin AFB

Il rapporto è stato appena pubblicato ... https://www.airforcemag.com/eglin-f-35-crash-blamed-on-landing-speed-but-software-helmet-oxygen-also-faulted/ ...

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Gree glow, casco disallineato, velocità eccessiva, angolo di incidenza basso, manuali e addestramento carenti, fly-by-wire che bisticcia col pilota, generatore d’ossigeno che causa degradazione cognitiva.

La tempesta perfetta…

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Servizio RAI da Eglin e da Luke:

 

 

Modificato 7 Ottobre 2020 da engine

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Sanzionate la Turchia !!!

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A bipartisan pair of U.S. senators are urging the Trump administration to impose economic sanctions on Turkey over buying and activating Russian S-400 Triumf air defense systems, concerned that Turkey is allowing Russia to access sensitive data on NATO aircraft.
In an Oct. 7 letter to Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo, Senate appropriators Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) raised concerns that Turkey may have used its S-400s “to detect U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets returning from the Eunomia exercise” held in August.
The exercise involving Cyprus, France, Greece, and Italy was a “response to Turkey’s unwarranted aggression in the Eastern Mediterranean,” the lawmakers said. 
Turkey had sent oil exploration vessels into disputed areas around Cyprus.

… airforcemag.com … Senators, Demanding Sanctions, Worry Turkey Used S-400 to Track US Jets …

  

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Col treno per Yuma arriva Odin...per ora l'hardware: se non altro la valigia è  leggera.

https://www.dvidshub.net/news/380638/odin-hardware-operating-mcas-yuma

 

https://hitechaerospace.com/2020/10/09/first-lockheed-martin-f-35s-loaded-with-odin-hardware-news/

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4 ore fa, Flaggy ha scritto:

Col treno per Yuma arriva Odin ... per ora l'hardware: se non altro la valigia è  leggera.

Mi aspettavo il treno e, invece, arriva una diligenza ...

Grande Frankie Laine !!! 

 

Modificato 10 Ottobre 2020 da TT-1 Pinto
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Una ipotesi che emerge periodicamente ... 

… psk.blog.24heures.ch … Les F-35 exports sont moins performants ! …

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Entro fine anno i "Fulmini" che usciranno dalla catena di montaggio avranno ricevuto adeguate, e si spera risolutive, modifiche al sistema di protezione dai fulmini OBIGGS ...

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By the end of 2020, F-35 fighter jets rolling off Lockheed Martin’s production line will be equipped with a modified lightning protection system that will fix problems discovered earlier this year, the company’s head of production said.
In June, the government’s F-35 Joint Program Office imposed flight restrictions on the F-35A conventional-takeoff-and-landing variant — the model used by the U.S. Air Force and most international customers — after the Air Force discovered an issue with the Onboard Inert Gas Generation System.

… defensenews.com … F-35 jet’s problematic lightning protection system set to receive fix …

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Il 12/10/2020 in 23:58 , TT-1 Pinto ha scritto:

Una ipotesi che emerge periodicamente ... 

… psk.blog.24heures.ch … Les F-35 exports sont moins performants ! …

Questa del codice da inserire da parte del pilota temo sia una mezza bufala, nel senso che è vero che il pilota deve inserire un codice personale per avviare il velivolo, ma non è che piloti di diverse nazioni, americani inclusi, possono addestrarsi assieme su aerei che operano in modo diverso perchè hanno inserito codici più o meno “inabilitanti”per il software...

Tra le tante pecche dell’ALIS si dice infatti ci sia stata anche la mancata accettazione del codice di un pilota che però ha avviato il velivolo usando quello...dell’istruttore. Sai che figata se si fosse trovato un velivolo che operava in modo diverso da quello su cui si era addestrato fino a quel momento...

Queste fonti anonime mi piacerebbe vederle in faccia per capire se le sparano a ca..o come sembra...

Diversa e molto più delicata la questione con gli EAU, anche perchè che Israele debba avere armamenti più sofisticati rispetto ai vicini è una cosa stabilita per legge dal 2008 negli USA.  Non è un caso se l’eventuale vendita agli EAU venga soppesata parecchio...nonostante Trump & co facciano del loro meglio per fare casino...

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To boot, President Donald Trump’s senior adviser Jared Kushner’s secret push to sell the F-35 and other advanced arms has caused confusion and frustration among agencies and congressional committees that would normally be involved in such a sale but have been left in the dark

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/09/24/top-us-lawmakers-voice-support-for-israels-military-edge-amid-f-35-sale/

E ancora, visto che il problema non sarebbe solo di Israele, c’è una domandina per Trump…

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How would the administration ensure the F-35′s sensitive technology isn’t threatened by the UAE’s ties to China (which sold it Wing Loong drones) and Russia (which is selling it the Sukhoi Su-35 fighter, the Pantsir S-1 missile defense system and the Kornet-E anti-tank missile system)? Has the UAE agreed to terminate cooperation and purchases with Russia and China in exchange for the F-35?

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/10/09/will-trump-sell-f-35s-to-uae-congress-wants-him-to-show-his-work/

 

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Il "pacco di sopravvivenza" ... 

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Arctic survival kits are the newest feature on the Air Force’s F-35A Joint Strike Fighters at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska.
The F-35 was not designed to carry sleeping bags and other equipment to protect pilots if they need to eject into the brutal Arctic temperatures, which regularly dip to -40 degrees Fahrenheit or colder. 
Alaska-based Airmen had to figure out how to fit roughly 10 pounds of survival gear into a 5-pound sack attached to the F-35’s ejection seat.
After months of research and testing, the 354th Operations Group commander approved the final kit, which includes survival tools such as a knife for gathering food, a poncho to stay dry, and flares to alert rescue crews to a downed pilot’s location. 
“Due to the smaller size of the seat, we are limited on how many items we can pack in here,” Staff Sgt. Ross Dugger, a 354th Operations Support Squadron aircrew flight equipment craftsman, said in a release (*).

… airforcemag.com … Eielson F-35s Get Arctic Survival Kits …

(*) … eielson.af.mil … First arctic survival kits installed in Eielson F-35As …

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Nuove scene da italietta : 

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/10/21/italys-navy-air-force-tussle-over-the-f-35-comes-to-a-head/

Non potrebbero fare un lockdown su cose del genere ?

 

 

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USMC ... ancora sulla collisione in volo fra un F-35B e un KC-130J ...
Ecco le immagini dell'aereo da trasporto danneggiato ...

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We still don't know much about what exactly caused the collision between a KC-130J and an F-35B, both Marine Corps aircraft taking part in the Weapons Tactics Instructor course out of MCAS Yuma, Arizona, near the Salton Sea in Southern California on September 29th, 2020. 
What we do know is the KC-130J crew did an incredible job keeping their cool and getting the badly damaged aircraft on the ground, a farmer's field near the town of Thermal, with all of its occupants alive. 
The Hercules tanker-transport, which belongs to VMGR-352 'Raiders,' has since been partially disassembled and moved to Jacqueline Cochran Airport in Thermal and our friend and contributor Matt Hartman grabbed some shots of it.

… thedrive.com/the-war-zone … Check Out The Hulk Of That C-130J That Collided With An F-35B Over Southern California …

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JSE + Covid = ritardi

https://www.portaledifesa.it/index~phppag,3_id,3852.html

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Un consiglio spassionato agli alleati ... "Imparate la lezione e non commettete i nostri errori" ...

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Pacific Air Forces commander Gen. Kenneth S. Wilsbach has some advice for users of the F-35 in his region: Don’t use it like the aircraft you’re used to, but take advantage of its full potential.
Speaking at an AFA Mitchell Institute virtual event Oct. 27, Wilsbach said the U.S. Air Force operated the F-22 like the F-15C for “about five years,” failing to fully exploit its fifth-generation stealth and sensor fusion capabilities.
“It took us a while to learn” what the jet could really do, he said, and now, “the tactics are completely different.” 
He advises the F-35 partners to use the aircraft “like an F-35,” and not like some of the high-performance fourth-generation aircraft they have been operating.
“Take advantage of the lessons learned that we’ve had,” he said. 
“Skip right to that … and cycle through those lessons learned that much faster. Take full advantage of the platform.”

… airforcemag.com … Wilsbach to Allies: Learn from USAF’s Mistakes, Fly Your F-35 Like an F-35 …

[Flaggy]

Qui per anni ci sono stati assalti dei sostenitori ad oltranza della quarta generazione.

Prima con discorsi farfugliati sulle perstazioni lette bovinamente sulla scheda tecnica, conditi da improbabili parallelismi con l’F-105, poi con arditi attacchi al concetto stealth a forza di IRST, radar a bassa frequenza, missiloni e poi sui costi, come se uno valesse uno...

Mai che si valutasse il velivolo nella sua completezza e all’interno di un sistema in cui evidentemente fa la differenza.

Fatica a capirlo chi lo usa e quindi mi consolo...