F-35 Lightning II - Discussione Ufficiale

[ShadowRider]

"...There's no evidence I'm aware of that its stealthy stablemates, the F-22 and B-2, possess a chaff dispenser..."

Look again:

 

 

 

...questo Trimble è un giornalista specializzato, giusto? Lo pagano per scrivere? No, perché mi fa un po' specie che non si sia preso il disturbo di fare 1-minuto-1 di ricerca. Su Google, mica su qualche database ultraclassificato...

[engine]

C'è chi non li vuole   e c'è chi li vuole  : 

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/topnews/2019/09/11/turchia-non-rinunciamo-a-f-35-usa_20a0a0ef-dd1a-4c4f-b6c8-2a798975587d.html

 Veri duri questi turchi  .

[Flaggy]

Già postato il 7 giugno, ma qui la qualità video è superiore.

 

[engine]

Dall'Olanda con idee intelligenti : 

https://formiche.net/2019/09/olanda-f-35-cameri-keijzer/

Quoto , in particolare, la frase finale : 

" ......Le soluzioni non riguardano solo la tecnologia. Riguardano anche la nostra mentalità, la nostra volontà di apprendere, la disponibilità a mettere in discussione lo status quo. Ecco a cosa serve la partnership F-35."

[TT-1 Pinto]

Il 12/9/2019 in 15:57 , ShadowRider ha scritto:

... questo Trimble è un giornalista specializzato, giusto?

Lo pagano per scrivere? 

E' lui ... https://aviationweek.com/author/steve-trimble ...

[ShadowRider]

Il 15/9/2019 in 00:27 , TT-1 Pinto ha scritto:

E' lui ... https://aviationweek.com/author/steve-trimble ...

 

Lo so, era domanda retorico/malinconica del tipo "ho sbagliato tutto..." 

[TT-1 Pinto]

Condivisione ...  

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A Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter, U-2 and a ground station have demonstrated a capability to shorten the decision loop involved in detecting and acting upon a long-range missile launch.
“During the demonstration, called Project Riot, an F-35 detected a long-range missile launch with its onboard sensors and shared the information through the U-2 to the air defense commander on the ground, enabling the commander to quickly make the decision to target the threat,” says Lockheed (*).

Fonte ... flightglobal.com ... https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/u-2-channels-f-35-sensor-data-in-ballistic-missile-460897/ ...

(*) ... https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2019-09-16-Lockheed-Martin-Skunk-Works-R-Project-Riot-Demonstrates-Multi-Domain-Operations ...

[TT-1 Pinto]

LM ha coniato un nuovo acrònimo (in queste cose, bisogna dirlo, gli Americani ci vanno a nozze): PBL ... ovvero ... "Performance-Based Logistics plan" ...
Descrive un piano che, in sostanza, punta ad un traguardo molto importante ...

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It’s possible for the F-35 program to reach its target of $25,000 per flying hour, but only if there’s a substantial change in the approach taken jointly by the operators and Lockheed Martin, company officials said at AFA’s 2019 Air, Space & Cyber Conference on Sept. 17. 
The company has submitted a white paper to Pentagon acquisition and sustainment chief Ellen Lord explaining a Performance-Based Logistics plan, requiring investment by both the company and the Pentagon, that could reduce operating and support costs for all the services by $18 billion by 2033, or 16 percent a year.
“We won’t get to the (reliability) targets doing business as usual,” Ken Merchant, Lockheed Martin vice president for F-35 sustainment, told reporters at a press breakfast.

Fonte ... airforcemag.com ... http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/Pages/2019/September 2019/Lockheed-Martin-Proposes-PBL-Plan-to-Hit-F-35-Operating-Costs-on-Time.aspx ...

Modificato 18 Settembre 2019 da TT-1 Pinto
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[Ubiquitario]

A chi fosse sfuggito, posto questo articolo. Credo sia lo stesso di Pinto ma in italiano

https://www.portaledifesa.it/index~phppag,3_id,3224.html

[TT-1 Pinto]

2 ore fa, Ubiquitario ha scritto:

A chi fosse sfuggito, posto questo articolo.

Credo sia lo stesso di Pinto ma in italiano

https://www.portaledifesa.it/index~phppag,3_id,3224.html

Grazie ... 

Più che lo stesso articolo ... è lo stesso argomento che viene trattato da RID ...

Che rimanda ai consueti "ulteriori approfondimenti" ... fra un mese e mezzo ... o quasi ... 

[Flaggy]

Il 9/6/2018 in 01:15 , Flaggy ha scritto:

Nel corso degli anni si sono affrontati vari problemi con il rivoluzionario casco.

....
Poi c’era il green glow, causato dal disturbo dato dalla luminosità dei display del cruscotto che rendeva difficile il volo notturno (per il pilota di notte era come guardare attraverso una finestra sporca) e che si è affrontato introducendo nel casco la tecnologia O-led.

 

La soluzione O-led ora si sta diffondendo...

https://navalaviationnews.navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/09/05/student-pilots-complete-f-35c-carrier-quals-aboard-uss-nimitz/

 

Intanto..."Beast Mode"

https://theaviationist.com/2019/09/20/check-out-these-stunning-photographs-of-four-f-35s-in-beast-mode-during-panther-beast-competition-at-luke-afb/

Modificato 21 Settembre 2019 da Flaggy

[Flaggy]

A quanto pare la Growth Option 1 non interessa e si va direttamente alla GO2 che ha anche più potenza disponibile per i sistemi. Non molto esaltanti le tempistiche visto che la nuova soluzione arriverebbe una decina di anni dopo averla annunciata.

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The intent is to deliver options for improving thrust by more than 10-12%, reducing fuel consumption by more than 5-6%, increasing vertical lift by about 2% and increasing overall power and thermal management capacity, Bromberg says.

Those targets are the proposed baseline improvements advertised for the Growth Option 2.0 upgrade, which remains in discussions for insertion beyond Block 4.2 aircraft delivered starting in 2026, he says.

https://aviationweek.com/defense/pratt-whitney-defining-f-35-engine-upgrade-package

Non so se stupisca di più questa tempistica lunga per un upgrade al motore (si badi bene che qui non si parla del passaggio al motore con architettura a tre flussi...) o la supercazzola su quelle brevi del caccia di sesta generazione. Di sicuro balza agli occhi il contrasto fra le due.

[Flaggy]

In arrivo il nuovo Advanced EOTS che risponde alle critiche con prestazioni allineate a quelle dei più moderni pod di puntamento come lo Sniper XR e che ci vede un tantino meglio...

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/996833/EOTS_and_AEOTS_Building.mp4

https://news.lockheedmartin.com/2019-09-17-Lockheed-Martin-Continues-Advanced-EOTS-Development#assets_all

 

[fabio-22raptor]

Giusto un tantino. Domanda: LM si dice pronta a integrare il sistema qualora i clienti richiedano la modernizzazione. Sarà un upgrade "a pagamento"? 

[Flaggy]

LM ha ottenuto contratti (e quindi soldi) anche per i tanti upgrade necessari a risolvere le varie criticità tecniche.

Questa non lo è.  Si tratta di normale obsolescenza di un componente che quando è nato il velivolo era anche adeguato, ma che ora è rimasto indietro rispetto alle realizzazioni su pod.

Certo, il velivolo è andato lungo nei tempi, ma è normale che si debba congelare una configurazione e poi procedere a metterla in linea andando quindi per step, mentre intanto la tecnologia va avanti in modo meno discontinuo.

Quindi mi pare scontato che chi vuole l’upgrade dei velivoli già consegnati debba anche pagarlo, mentre chi riceverà velivoli nuovi si suppone che da un certo momento in poi li riceva con l’AEOTS e che paghi anche di meno per averli.

Il nuovo EOTS,  come il nuovo DAS, rientrano nel processo di riduzione costi avviato da LM, ma questo non è estraneo a un parallelo miglioramento qualitativo dei sistemi.

[TT-1 Pinto]

Dalla pagina dei contratti del DoD del 23 Settembre 2019 ...

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NAVY

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Fort Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $352,672,006 modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price, indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract (N00019-19-D-0015). 
This modification increases the ceiling and scope of the contract to include the procurement of Lot 12-14 Generation 3 helmet mounted displays in support of the F-35 Lightning II program. 
Work will be performed in Fort Worth, Texas, and is expected to be completed in December 2020. 
No funds are being obligated at time of award; funds will be obligated on individual orders as they are issued. 
The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Maryland, is the contracting activity.

[ShadowRider]

Rischieramento a Keflavik per i Lightning dell'AM. Arrivo previsto domani.

 

https://www.ruv.is/frett/italians-take-over-iceland-airspace-patrols?fbclid=IwAR2iHH5ys0s4IVTFDIJj7JacPcmA6z2VxoV2Kv4AQFOEiCFEZnPDiy9maq0

[TT-1 Pinto]

Da The Aviationist ...

... First Among All The Partner Nations, Italy Deploys F-35s To Iceland For NATO Air Policing Mission ...

 

[TT-1 Pinto]

Quota 80% ... gli F-35 non ce la fanno ...

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The Air Force is working with the Office of the Secretary of Defense to find a more “holistic” and meaningful way to measure aircraft readiness, as 80 percent of three USAF fighter fleets won’t be mission-capable by Oct. 1 as former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis wanted.
Mattis last year ordered the Air Force and Navy to increase the F-16, F/A-18, F-22, and F-35 mission-capable rates to at least 80 percent in an overall push to grow fleet readiness. 
The Air Force’s Active-Duty F-16 fleet will meet the mark, and the Navy announced this week that its Super Hornets will as well. 
Air National Guard and Reserve F-16s, along with all F-22 and F-35 fleets, will fall short of the goal.

... airforcemag.com ... USAF Wants to Find New Ways to Discuss Fleet Readiness ...

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The US Navy’s (USN) Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler have surpassed an 80% mission capability rate, complying with a directive set by former defense secretary Jim Mattis last year.
But the USN’s premier fighter aircraft, the Lockheed Martin F-35C Lightning II carrier variant, will not reach the US Department of Defense’s (DoD) 80% goal, the USN announced on 24 September.

... flightglobal.com ... F/A-18 and EA-18 reach 80% mission capability as F-35 struggles ...

[ShadowRider]

10 ore fa, TT-1 Pinto ha scritto:

Quota 80% ... gli F-35 non ce la fanno ...

 

Beh, l'obiettivo è ambizioso in partenza.

Comunque pare che si sia sulla buona strada, Eglin AFB quest'estate ha indicato un MC rate del 77% sui propri Lightning:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/07/20/eglin-afb-f-35s-hit-their-highest-mission-capable-rate.html

 

Qualcuno ha indicazioni sugli Availability Rate di altre piattaforme? Leggevo su qualche forum che i Rafale stanno sul 53%, non ho trovato dati sui Typhoon

Modificato 26 Settembre 2019 da ShadowRider

[TT-1 Pinto]

Quota 80% ... 

La Marina USA esulta per il risultato raggiunto ... anche se evita di citare gli F-35C ... forse perché il numero dei velivoli di tale tipo che ha, al momento, in dotazione è ancora piuttosto basso ai fini di una corretta valutazione ...

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The Navy has exceeded the Defense Department’s requirement of having 80 percent of operational Super Hornets and Growlers mission capable and has met the stretch goal it set for itself, the service announced on Wednesday.
With rates hovering in the 40- and 50-percent range, then-Defense Secretary James Mattis one year ago ordered all the services to focus their time and money on improving readiness.
“We must focus on meeting our most critical priorities first. These include achieving a minimum of 80 percent mission capability rates for our FY 2019 Navy and Air Force F-35, F-22, F-16 and F-18 inventories — assets that form the backbone of our tactical airpower — and reducing these platforms operating and maintenance costs every year, starting in FY 2019,” he wrote in a Sept. 17, 2018, memo.
Since then, the Navy’s current F-18 force – the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and EA-18G Growler – have steadily achieved higher mission capable rates. 
The force has neared or temporarily hit the 80-percent mark a few times in recent months, sources have told USNI News throughout the year. 
In recent weeks the service has consistently sustained those levels – which equates to about 320 Super Hornets, a number calculated based on the Primary Mission Aircraft Inventory, or those planes assigned to deployable units that would go to combat if called upon, and does not include aircraft that perform training, testing and other missions.

 ... news.usni.org ... Navy Surpasses 80% Aircraft Readiness Goal, Reaches Stretch Goal of 341 Up Fighters ...

Anche qui ... navy.mil ... Naval Aviation Achieves SECDEF Readiness Target, Shifts Focus to Readiness Sustainment ...

[engine]

15 ore fa, TT-1 Pinto ha scritto:

Da The Aviationist ...

... First Among All The Partner Nations, Italy Deploys F-35s To Iceland For NATO Air Policing Mission ...

 

Aspettiamoci l'arrivo di russi .... molto curiosi  .

[TT-1 Pinto]

7 minuti fa, engine ha scritto:

Aspettiamoci l'arrivo di russi .... molto curiosi  .

Poco ... ma sicuro ... 

[TT-1 Pinto]

Il 26/9/2019 in 00:11 , TT-1 Pinto ha scritto:

Da The Aviationist ...

... First Among All The Partner Nations, Italy Deploys F-35s To Iceland For NATO Air Policing Mission ...

 

Ne parla anche AW&ST ...

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Italian F-35s In Iceland For First NATO Deployment ...

Graham Warwick - Aerospace Daily & Defense Report (AW&ST) - Sep. 26, 2019

Italy has become the first F-35 operator to deploy the fifth-generation fighter on a NATO mission, sending the aircraft to perform air policing in Iceland.
Six Italian F-35s touched down at Keflavik airfield on Sept. 25 for the temporary deployment.
Unlike the Baltic Air Policing mission, which is supported year-round by NATO air forces, the Icelandic mission usually lasts several weeks and occurs three-four times each year. 
The F-35s are due to make Iceland their home for three weeks.
According to NATO’s Air Command, the deployment by Italy is the country’s fifth detachment to Iceland and the second this year; Rome previously provided Eurofighter Typhoons for the mission.
“The Italian Air Force detachment is scheduled to work with the controllers at the Combined Air Operations Center in Uedem, Germany, and the Control and Reporting Center at Keflavik, Iceland,” NATO Air Command officials said.
No details of the deployment had been released by the Italian air force or defense ministry at the time of writing (*).
The deployment was supported by one of Italy’s Boeing KC-767 tanker aircraft, a C-130J airlifter, and a P-72 maritime patrol derivative of the ATR-72 providing cover in the event of an ejection over water.
The F-35s will perform a series of familiarization flights to achieve certification for the mission. 
Italy declared its F-35s operational last November, becoming the fourth air arm to do so after the U.S. Marine Corps, the U.S. Air Force and the Israeli Air Force.
Iceland does not have an air force, and the U.S. stopped basing fighters on the island in 2006, prompting the government in Reykjavik to request occasional fighter deployments starting in 2008. 
NATO describes the mission as a “peacetime preparedness mission,” helping the country to “stay prepared, to monitor and to manage its airspace in peacetime.”
The UK Royal Air Force will deploy Typhoons to the island later this year.

Nel frattempo ... l' Aeronautica Militare ha dato la conferma ufficiale ...

... ISLANDA: AL VIA L'OPERAZIONE NATO "NORTHERN LIGHTNING" ...

 

[TT-1 Pinto]

Ancora problemi e ritardi ...

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The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will not complete its already-delayed formal operational test phase this fall because of a setback in the testing process, according to a source close to the program.
While the F-35 Initial Operational Test and Evaluation (IOT&E) was supposed to be complete by late summer, a source with knowledge of its development said the testing is still incomplete due to an unfinished phase known as the Joint Simulation Environment.
The JSE simulations project characteristics such as weather, geography and range, allowing test pilots to prove the aircraft's "full capabilities against the full range of required threats and scenarios," according to a 2015 Director, Operational Test & Evaluation (DOT&E) report.

... military.com ... F-35 Testing Delays Continue, Even as Aircraft Has Made Its Combat Debut ...