Malaysia Airlines

[gcm981]

Ragazzi ma quali sono le vostre idee sul disastro della Malaysia Airlines? Cosa potrebbe essere accaduto???

[TT-1 Pinto]

E' una parola!

In questa settimana se ne sono sentite di tutti i colori .... tipo questa .... ascoltata nel corso di un giornale radio .... "era in grado di atterrare anche su un'autostrada" ....

Quando il fior fiore degli esperti continua a brancolare nel buio .... quale idea potremmo farci noi .... che siamo soltanto dei 'poveri' appassionati?

[Scagnetti]

Detesto fare il complottista, i cui panni mal mi si addicono, ma la poca chiarezza in materia continua. Tra pochi giorni la scatola nera dovrebbe smettere di trasmettere. E malgrado sembra si sia individuata grossomodo la zona del crash da diversi giorni, la scatola nera non è stata né recuperata né a quanto sembra localizzata.

[vorthex]

sono rimasto indietro, la zona del crash dove sarebbe?

Modificato 3 Aprile 2014 da vorthex

[Mustanghino]

in un area grossa come la Francia a 1500 km a OSO di Perth

Modificato 4 Aprile 2014 da Mustanghino

[TT-1 Pinto]

Le ultime notizie sono queste ....

 

Flight International ..... "MH370 search grinds on 1,700km northwest of Perth" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mh370-search-grinds-on-1700km-northwest-of-perth-397826/

 

Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) .... il nuovo ente che, dal 1° Aprile, si occupa delle comunicazioni ufficiali relative alle ricerche .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/

Media Release 4 April 2014—am .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2 ... mr006.aspx

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Per dire, l'area indicata con il numero due nell'immagine sotto. From Wiki.

 

[Scagnetti]

Secondo Guido Olimpo, che non è proprio uno scarpàro, l’area sarebbe più piccola, parla di un corridoio di 240 Km (lineari)

 

Il comandante Angus Houston, a capo del Joint Agencies Coordination Centre spiega che quella corsia di 240 chilometri è stata scelta sulla base di nuove analisi dei pochi dati satellitari sul volo scomparso la mattina di sabato 8 marzo con i suoi 239 passeggeri e membri dell’equipaggio. Ipotizzando la durata e la rotta del Boeing è stata definita quella specifica striscia come «la più probabile zona di impatto con l’oceano».

 

 

 

vero parla di area più probabile (e non certa) sulla base di nuove analisi, ma tali nuove analisi sono state svolte in modo sufficientemente tempestivo? Almeno dal 19 marzo quando è stata individuata l’area grande quanto la Francia di sui si parlava sopra?

 

All’inizio dell’articolo comunque:

 

Quattro settimane dopo la scomparsa del volo MH370 sulla rotta Kuala Lumpur-Pechino le ricerche del relitto hanno avuto questa mattina un’accelerazione. Due navi con «pinger locators» hanno cominciato una «missione specifica» per l’individuazione delle due scatole nere del Boeing. Sono la HMS Echo della Royal Navy britannica e l’australiana Ocean Shield, dotata del piccolo drone sottomarino Bluefin 21 e del localizzatore fornito dagli Usa. Le due unità scandagliano una sorta di corsia lunga 240 chilometri, a Ovest della costa australiana e convergono una verso l’altra per accorciare i tempi di ricerca. Bisogna accelerare perché le batterie delle due scatole nere si stanno esaurendo, ancora pochi giorni e non dovrebbero avere più una carica sufficiente per trasmettere il segnale che ne indica la posizione.

 

[TT-1 Pinto]

Le ultime ....

 

.... dal Joint Agency Coordination Centre (JACC) ....

 

"Media Reporting on Chinese Ship Detection of Electronic Pulse Signals" .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr010.aspx

 

"Search and recovery continues for Malaysian flight MH370" .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr011.aspx

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On Apr 5th 2014 China's state run news agency Xinhua reported the Chinese ship Haixun 01, participating in the search for MH-370, located a 37.5kHz pulse signal at position S25 E101 (about 730nm westsouthwest of Learmonth, WA and 900nm westnorthwest of Perth,WA (Australia), see updated overview map).

Xinhua states that it is not yet clear whether this beacon is related to MH-370.

Underwater Locator Beacons as mounted to flight data recorders are using 37.5kHz pulsed pings and at 160dB (re 1μPa) transmission energy are detectable up to 5 kilometers distance in good conditions, at 180dB (re 1μPa) up to 22 kilometers in good conditions.

 

Fonte .... http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

[TT-1 Pinto]

Due segnali .... ma molto distanziati ....

 

"MH370 searchers examine widely separated pings " .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mh370-searchers-examine-widely-separated-pings-397871/

 

JACC .... "Search and recovery continues for Malaysian flight MH370" .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr012.aspx

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JACC .... gli ultimi due comunicati ....

 

http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr013.aspx

 

http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr014.aspx

 

Flight International .... " MH370 search zeroes in on reacquired ‘pings’ " .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/mh370-search-zeroes-in-on-reacquired-pings-398019/

 

 

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JACC .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr016.aspx

 

Media Release - 10 April 2014—pm

 

The Chief Coordinator of the Joint Agency Coordination Centre, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston (Ret'd), has confirmed that whilst conducting an acoustic search this afternoon a RAAF AP-3C Orion aircraft has detected a possible signal in the vicinity of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield.

 

“The acoustic data will require further analysis overnight but shows potential of being from a man-made source,” Air Chief Marshal Houston (Ret'd) said.

 

“I will provide a further update if, and when, further information becomes available.”

 

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JACC .... era un falso allarme .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr018.aspx

 

Media Release - 11 April 2014—pm

The Chief Coordinator of the Joint Agency Coordination Centre, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston (Ret'd), said an initial assessment of the possible signal detected by a RAAF AP-3C Orion aircraft yesterday afternoon has been determined as not related to an aircraft underwater locator beacon.

“The Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre has analysed the acoustic data and confirmed that the signal reported in the vicinity of the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield is unlikely to be related to the aircraft black boxes,” Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston (Ret'd), said.

“Further analysis continues to be undertaken by Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre.

“Today Ocean Shield is continuing more focussed sweeps with the Towed Pinger Locator to try and locate further signals that may be related to the aircraft's black boxes. It is vital to glean as much information as possible while the batteries on the underwater locator beacons may still be active.

“The AP-3C Orions continue their acoustic search, working in conjunction with Ocean Shield, with three more missions planned for today.

“A decision as to when to deploy the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle will be made on advice from experts on board the Ocean Shield and could be some days away.

“On the information I have available to me, there has been no major breakthrough in the search for MH370. I will provide a further update if, and when, further information becomes available.”

 

Le ricerche, dunque, continuano .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr017.aspx

 

Però .... non sarebbe più giusto, prima di alimentare false speranze, analizzare a fondo i dati e poi rilasciare il relativo comunicato?

 

Ah si .... la trasparenza .... la pressione dei media .... e così via ....

 

P.S. .... dimenticavo .... .... e l'immancabile 'presenzialismo' dei politici ....

 

"Australian PM 'very confident' signals are from MH370's recorders" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/australian-pm-39very-confident39-signals-are-from-mh37039s-398148/

Modificato 11 Aprile 2014 da TT-1 Pinto

[TT-1 Pinto]

JACC .... il programma di oggi ....

 

Today, Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield continues more focused sweeps with the Towed Pinger Locator to try and locate further signals related to the aircraft's black boxes.

The AP-3C Orions continue their acoustic search, working in conjunction with Ocean Shield.

The oceanographic ship HMS Echo is also working in the area with Ocean Shield.

This work continues in an effort to narrow the underwater search area for when the Autonomous Underwater Vehicle is deployed.

There have been no confirmed acoustic detections over the past 24 hours.

 

Fonte .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr019.aspx

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La ricerca ....

 

 

U.S. Navy Lt. Kenneth Savage performs preflight checks in the cockpit of a P-8A Poseidon before a mission to search for Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 from Perth, Australia, April 4, 2014.

Savage is a naval aviator assigned to Patrol Squadron 16, which is deployed in the U.S. 7th Fleet area of responsibility to support security and stability in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. U.S.

 

Navy photo by Chief Keith DeVinney

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Entra in scena "Bluefin-21" .... http://www.bluefinrobotics.com/products/bluefin-21/

 

 

Joint Agency Coordination Centre chief Angus Houston said at a press conference on the evening of 14 April that an underwater autonomous vehicle - the Bluefin-21- will soon be deployed.

Ocean Shield meanwhile will pull up the towed pinger locater it has been relying on for signals from the recorders.

 

Fonte .... "Underwater vehicle to be deployed in MH370 search" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/underwater-vehicle-to-be-deployed-in-mh370-search-398186/

 

JACC .... "Media Release - 14 April 2014—am" .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr021.aspx

[TT-1 Pinto]

On the beach ....

 

Western Australia Police have attended a report of material washed ashore 10 kilometres east of Augusta and have secured the material.

 

Fonte .... "Unidentified material washed ashore" .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr035.aspx

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The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has advised that after examining detailed photographs of material washed ashore 10 kilometres east of Augusta, it is satisfied it is not a lead in relation to the search for missing flight MH370.

Any further information will be made available if, and when, it becomes available.

 

Fonte .... JACC .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr036.aspx

 

Inoltre ...."Australian beach debris unrelated to MH370: ATSB" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/australian-beach-debris-unrelated-to-mh370-atsb-398516/

[TT-1 Pinto]

L'Australia invoca una nuova strategia ....

 

Governments involved in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200, flight MH370, have resolved to continue the task – but the Australian co-ordinators of the exercise have declared they may soon need a new strategy.

 

Fonte .... " 'New strategy' may be needed in MH370 search " .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/39new-strategy39-may-be-needed-in-mh370-search-398528/

[TT-1 Pinto]

Ricerche tuttora senza risultati .... pertanto .... diminuzione delle ricerche aeree ed ampliamento dell'area di quelle subacquee ....

 

Australia’s prime minister Tony Abbott told reporters at a briefing in Canberra that it was “highly unlikely” that any aircraft debris would be located from further aerial searches, and those aircraft being used in the searches are “operating at close to the limit of safe and sensible operation.”

“Therefore we are moving from the current phase to a phase that is focused on searching the ocean floor over a much larger area.”

 

Fonte .... "Australian PM announces major shift in MH370 search" .... http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/australian-pm-announces-major-shift-in-mh370-search-398628/

 

Prime Minister Tony Abbott addresses the media with chief of the Joint Agency Co-ordination Centre, Air Chief Marshall Angus Houston.

Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

 

Intanto .... Bluefin-21 sta effettuando la 16^ missione .... http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/april/mr040.aspx

[Scagnetti]

Tutto da rifare sembra : Aereo scomparso: il luogo delle ricerche non è quello giusto

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Pazzesco.

 

Per la difficoltà di rintracciare un velivolo nell'Oceano, senza sapere bene l'ultimo rilevamento, gia il 12 Maggio qualcuno ipotizzava che ci potessero volere anni per fare la ricerca.

 

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/667388-missing-plane-found-nope-experts-say-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh-370-wont-be-found-for-a-while/

Modificato 29 Maggio 2014 da -{-Legolas-}-

[Flaggy]

Continuano a trovare pezzi trasportati dalle correnti...

 

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/atsb-identifie-two-more-part-from-mh370-jet-425229/

[fabio-22raptor]

Lontanuccio come luogo del ritrovamento dei detriti. Anche se comunque considerando l'arco temporale e le correnti non è così strano ritrovarli sparsi per il mondo.